02
Triton TR19 PD |
Q:
What would be the best prop and setup for this boat. I'm
interested in both |
02
200 Merc EFI |
high
speed and/or good speed and stable ride. Speedo speed is I think
about 75 |
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mph.
I haven't had the boat at WOT for a couple of months so not sure on
the |
25
Trophy |
RPM's
it's turning at WOT. |
6"
jackplate |
A: You've got everything you
need now....you might come up on the jackplate |
5"
off transom |
another
1/2"....and add trim extenders....and add 2" spacer blocks
for 8" of |
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setback....but
the 25 Trophy is the prop I recommend. |
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75
equates to 69 mph on a Toon....so you're close..72 will be about where
it runs |
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semi
light. |
02
Triton TR 20 |
Q:
Chinewalks bad - is this the best setup for this boat? Can it go
faster, is this |
02
225 Yamaha |
the right
prop? Please help me set this boat up. |
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A: You're battin' 1000.....you
don't have anything right....or your dealer doesn't |
25
Tempest Plus
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anyway. |
5.5"
off transom
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27 Yamaha
ProSeries (non XL), 8" plate (add 2" spacers to your
6"), and set the |
73.9
mph @ 6000
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big Yam
at 6.75" over the transom. You'll be at 58-5900 and 76-78 mph and
much |
20#
psi
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easier
handling. Once you get used to driving this setup you can jack it some
more... |
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about a
1/2". |
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00
Triton TR 21DC |
Q:
Todd, I am not getting the bow (boat) lift or speed I need. I am
slow out of |
00
225 Johnson |
the hole.
I am willing to do whatever it takes (new jackplate, prop, etc.) to
improve |
(Lightning) |
performance.
I have NO problems with the handling! I noticed in some of your |
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answers
to others you do not care for the "Lightning" Johnson,
please elaborate. |
27"
Renegade |
On a day
with a 5-10 mph wind I can gain 2-5 mph via the extra lift! I am |
6"
jackplate |
interested
in mid-range and top end performance. I appreciate your help and |
6-6
1/4" off transom |
information.
THANK YOU! |
70
mph @ 5/5600 |
A: Well, you've answered for
me....I don't like the Lightning and now you know |
25#
psi |
why!
It is a crappy excuse for a noseconed lower unit and costs lift on
non-80 mph |
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rigs.....and
doesn't do well on 80 mph rigs either! It's a sad attempt
to mimic |
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Merc's
Sportmaster. |
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The
Lightning will run better with a 3 blade...even tho I recommend the
27" |
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Renegade
on HO/21's.....I recommend the 26 Raker with the 21/Lightning. |
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Cupping
the 26 will help also. What you need is LIFT.....lift that
the lower unit is |
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costing
you. |
01
Triton TR 20 PD |
Q:
I just purchased a new Triton TR20 that does not have a jackplate and
it starts |
01
200 Merc EFI |
to
chinewalk bad @ about 66 mph. I had a friend that suggest
looking @ BBC |
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for some
answers. I'm not necessarily looking for the most speed out of
my boat, |
25"
Trophy |
more like
the best performance. There are several manual jackplate
manufacturers |
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on the
market, could you recommend the best one, size and a starting point
for |
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complete
setup for my situation. If this is something you sell please
include any |
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info on
how I can purchase this from you. Thanks....... |
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A: I rig and own Rapid Jack brand
plates. They can be had from the BBC Store. |
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A 6"
plate will do well...if you had the 225 and wanted max speed I'd
recommend |
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the
8" plate....but the 200 will do fine with the 6". Set
the engine at 5.25" over the |
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transom
and I think you'll see the chinewalk improve drastically...it won't go |
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completely
away...but it will be much more manageable. I rig the 20's with
the 3 |
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blade
Tempest....your Trophy will work, but in my opinion it's not the best
prop |
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for the
application. |
02
Triton TR19 PDC |
Q:
I just ordered this boat but did not include a jackplate. Will I need
one and why? |
02
200 Yamaha |
A: If you ever want to get the
most from your rig you'll need the plate...but it will |
VMax HPDI |
run
without it. When the same rig passes you easily on the water,
with a plate, |
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you'll
know why you needed it. |
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02
Triton TX-20
02 225 Yamaha
5.5" jackplate
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Q:
I am this week ordering a 2002 Triton TX-20 with a 225 Yamaha and
5.5"
CMC hydraulic jackplate. Please recommend a prop for this setup.
My dealer
recommended a Mercury prop, but I would think that a Yamaha prop would
work
better on a Yamaha engine. My dealer just started selling
Yamahas so he is not as
familiar with this engine as he is with the Mercury. He is
recommending highly the
CMC hydraulic jackplate because there is nothing to mount in the back
storage
area with the CMC. I initially requested a Bob's hydraulic, but
there is little room
to mount the hydraulics inside the storage area. Please provide
any setup tips that
you might have for this combination. Also, if you would like to
comment on
hydraulic jackplates, I would appreciate the feedback you can provide.
In addition,
how should this boat perform with the 225 Yamaha? I could order
a 225 Merc
instead if it is a stronger performer. You really helped me a
lot several months ago
in setting up my dad's boat. Again, thank your for all of your
help.
A: There are a
couple of things to consider in your prop selection...and maybe
a couple of questions to answer. First off....the TX's weigh a
tad more than the TR's
due to the fiberglass deck lids and the added equipment for the
baitwell system.
I've dealt with numerous 21's but never the 20 TX....and I usually
reduce pitch by
1 size to offset the weight. Next....bayboats usually wind
up carrying a lot of extra
equipment and a speed setup hurts when mid range with a load is
required...so
here are the 2 ways to go:
1. If you're going to run heavy most of the time, go with the Merc 25
Trophy....now,
I like the 3 blades on the 20's and I especially like the Yamaha 3
blade (non XL)....
but....Yam doesn't make an applicable 4 blade for our goal and the
Merc runs very
well on the Yam.
2. If you are going to rig and run like a regular TR20....then I think
the 25 Yamaha
3 blade is probably going to be the prop....if it were a TR20 I'd say
a 27 PS Yam
and if you run up toward 6K with the 25 you'll need to try the 27
anyway.
Don't be afraid of the Merc props....they have a wider variety
available than any
manufacturer out there and perform very well. As for the
CMC...I like the plate.
I'm not a fan of non-self contained units....but to ever get the most
from the TX
you'll need 2" spacers with the 5.5" setback.
I think you're looking at a 74 mph boat....and the Yam is a good
choice...so is Merc.
Get it broke in and we'll get it tweaked. |
02
Triton TR-20 |
Q:
I am looking for the best setup for the 2002 Triton TR-20. I
have been told |
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that the
Mercury and the Yamaha 225's are the best on the market. What I
want |
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is pure
speed. This boat will be fished from, but I am mainly wanting to
get it set |
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for the
best MPH that it will be able to perform. Which engine and prop
set-up |
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do you
recommend? |
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A: I'd go Mercury 225 EFI,
10" plate and a 27 Tempest.....most get about |
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78
tops.....80+ is possible but not usually by normal setup. |
02
Triton TR19 |
Q:
I love this site and the info. I have ordered this new rig and expect
to get it in |
02
200 Evinrude |
late
February or early March. I did not order it with a jackplate as
I thought I |
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would
pick one up before it arrived so that I could get it to the dealer to
install with |
8"
jackplate
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the
motor. One of my buddies from our club has a brand new (still in
the box), |
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Rite Hite
8" manual that he will sell me for $125. My questions are: Should
I go |
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with this
or buy the Rapid Jack that I was looking at in the 6" setback; at
what |
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settings
should I have the dealer mount the plate and motor, is this the right
prop |
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for
decent speed and handling as well as fishability, and what kind of
output can I |
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expect?
Thanks for your assistance.......... |
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A: The 8" plate will work
well....but as to the RiteHite.....now is the time to set it |
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up right
and not have any future worries....I'd get the Rapid Jack, it's worth
the |
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difference
to me. |
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Have the
dealer mount the engine near the bottom of its mounting holes in the |
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transom
bracket....this will alow for more plate to plate contact and not have
the |
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jackplate
fully extended....much stronger this way. Set the engine 6"
over the |
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transom.
The 25 Renegade is a good choice....it will put you to 72+ when you
get |
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all the
bugs out....if you're able to turn it close to 6K then try a 27
Renegade |
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for a
couple more mph. |
00
Triton TR-20 |
Q:
Just purchased this boat from the original owner who basically didn't
use it. |
99
200 Johnson |
It has no
jackplate and has a 3 blade that came on the motor. I need set
up |
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information
such as what kind of jackplate to run on it and what props will work
the |
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best.
It chine walks badly. Thanks for any info!! |
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A: This one's easy....you're gonna
love this rig....... |
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6"
or 8" plate will do....if you want max speed go with the 8....if
low speed handling |
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is what's
desired go 6". |
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Set the
motor at 6" over the transom and run a 26 Raker to 5700 or
so....if you |
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can't get
past 5600 with the 26 use the 24 Raker to 6000....don't go over 6K. |
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Try the
25 Renegade at some point....it may be easier for you to control the |
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chine
with, but the 20's like the 3 blade. |
00
Triton TR 22 |
Q:
I have been talking to another TR-22 owner with the same setup and
everything |
00
225 Johnson HO |
is the
same as my boat except he is running a 26" Raker. He said
the only thing |
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he is
doing differeent is that he had modified his trim unit to provide more
+ trim. |
26"
Mazco HP4 |
He is
reporting 75 mph on gps. Is that possible? I am going to a
8" jackplate in |
5
1/2" jackplate |
the
spring. Should I add wedges to give me +2 degrees of trim?? |
6"
off transom |
A: I think your pal is a little
speed happy....the HO on the 22 is a good choice.... |
69
mph @ 5800 |
but not
worth 75....72 if setup well. I like the 3 blades on the
22's....and I think the |
30+
psi |
26 Raker
would be a better choice for the 22/HO....and I think 2" spacers
would |
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help on
the plate.....the HO has all the trim you need....wedges aren't
necessary. |
02
Triton TR20 |
Q:
I have a 2002 TR20 w/225 Yamaha. The setup includes a 10" plate
and 27 |
02
225 Yamaha |
ProSeries
prop. The motor is 7 3/4" off the transom, but I am only running
74 mph. |
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My tackle
is in the rear left storage compartment. The only thing in the
front box |
27"
Yamaha PS |
are rods
on left and extra life preservers and rain gear in the center. I
have finished |
10"
jackplate |
break in
and need help with setup. Is it true that this boat is capable
of 77-80 mph |
7
3/4" off transom |
gps
speeds? If so, what do I need to do to get there. Could it
be that I am too |
74.1
mph @ 5800 |
high on
the jackplate? Maybe do I need to change props or add some cup
to this |
19-22#
psi |
one.
I am slipping at the height that I am at now but the rooster tail is
nearly half |
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way down
when I drop it. Before I raised the motor it chinewalked badly
but that |
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went away
when I raised it. If you were setting this up what would you do
exactly. |
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IF
possible be very detailed. I would like to pop 80 mph on the GPS
if possible. |
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A: Something's amiss.....you have all the components....and
my 21's with the |
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same
stuff are 1-2 faster than your 20. |
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I feel
that you may be too high.....but your h20 psi is good....your speed is
too low |
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for an
efficient 5800 rpms....are you sure you have a 27 ProSeries and not an
XL |
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Yamaha
prop? |
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I run the
21's at 7" with a 10" plate, and 6.5" with a 6"
plate.....I think you should |
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try
another 27 PS Yam prop and lower a little....the big Yam will still
loosen up |
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over the
next few hours....they are very tight engines......... |
02
Triton TR-21
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Q:
Boat has 4 hours on it since Thanksgiving. I have run jackplate
up and down |
02 250
Yamaha
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in
1/4" increments. I have shifted weight forward and aft.
Running with 2-225# |
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men and
tourny gear, 1/2 tank fuel and empty livewells, boat has great
holeshot |
27"
Yamaha SS |
trimmed
down but takes forever to get up on the pad?? About 66/67 gps,
the |
8"
jackplate |
chinewalk
comes in all at once, very hard thump, thump, thump to the left side
of |
7"
off transom |
the
hull. My 1997 TR21 had a chinewalk at 65 gps but was very fine
in frequency, |
73
mph @ 5600 |
tip,tip,tip
and with manual steering I could work thru the chine and hold the
boat |
19#
psi |
to a
respectable 68/69 gps under control. 2002 has hydraulic
steering. I know |
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seat
time, but the trim tab on the 250 Yamaha is set straight, does it
matter with |
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hydraulic
steering? Is the trim tab a factor in chinewalk? The
chine did improve |
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when I
jacked up to 7" above the transom, to go on up I will have to
raise the motor |
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to the
last hole in motor bracket, not a problem, just got to do it. |
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Hydraulic
steering is different, can you work/jiggle the steering wheel and
control |
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the
chine? With this 2002 TR21 the chine is scary and hard........ |
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A: The hydraulic steering will
take some getting used to over your old cable |
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steering....it
has a degree of delay that the cables didn't have....and the
steering |
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inputs
will seem greatly exaggerated compared to cable. The Yams run
very high.... |
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but
7" is pretty close to where it's gonna want to run...I'd still
go up the last hole |
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and
lower it if necessary. |
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You
need to make sure your prop is a 27 ProSeries and not an XL
series.... |
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Go out
to your boat after you read this and turn the steering wheel with
all your |
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might
to the left and then to the right....turn it very hard as if you're
trying to break |
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something....this
will bleed all the air back to the steering reservoir....after doing
this |
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the
steering will feel extremely hard for about an hour and will then
loosen up again |
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as it
is now....on a new installation I do this 3 or 4 times over a couple
of days to |
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reduce
delay time in steering input. |
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The Yam
will loosen up some more also....I know till you get used to it you
won't |
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have
any solid performance numbers...but when you do, get back to me. |
02
Triton TR21 |
Q:
Have a 250 Yamaha on my 21' dual console Triton. Just
completed breaking |
02
250 Yamaha |
in the
engine and it pops the boat on plane easily (with a full
load/gear/gas tanks |
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full,
easily hopped up 5 of us with full bellies of turkey this weekend). |
27"
Yamaha |
Running
a Yamaha 25M prop and with 56 gallons of fuel, 2 people and full |
6"
jackplate |
livewells
it will consistently max at 75-76 on the gps at just under 6000 rpm. |
4.5"
off transom |
Max rpm
rated for 4500-5500 and peak hp at 5000, per the owner's manual. |
76.1
mph @ 5900 |
I
assume I can pick up some mph if I go to a higher pitch prop, as
long as I don't |
25#
psi |
lose my
planing ability. As easily as it hops up now, I'm hoping it
won't be a |
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problem.
Any experience or suggestions with similar setups? Should I
try going |
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to a
28" or 29"? Will I get best speed with a prop that
tops out at about 5000 rpm |
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(peak
of hp curve) or should I try to stay closer to 5500 rpm (max rated
rpm)? |
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Do you
know how many rpm you typically lose at top end with each additional |
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inch of
pitch? Thanks........ |
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A: The 21 likes the 4
blade.....and in your case there aren't a lot of big 3 blades |
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that
have a through hub exhaust configuration....hence my
suggestion....28 Trophy. |
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The
added blade will cost 100-200 rpms and the added pitch will cost
another |
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200....I'd
prop to run at 5800 rpm. As you've found out, the big Yam will
spin the |
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rpms.....it
just loses efficiency the higher you go. |
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Here's
the bad side as it were....you're still very low with the
engine....and some |
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added
setback would help.....but both of these will only add rpms and
speed...... |
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you
have an 80+ platform there....propping to keep it under 6000 is
gonna be tuff. |
00
Triton TR21 |
Q:
I want to sell the manual jackplate and put on one that I can
adjust, I have been |
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200 Evinrude Ficht |
told to
put on an electrical jackplate, what do you suggest? I run a 3
blade now, |
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but I'm
not sure what pitch. I have a 4 blade Renegade 25" but it
will not come |
OMC
Raker |
out of
the hole without a lot of cavitation. I know this is probably
the way the |
6"
jackplate |
jackplate
is setup now, what is the best setup for this boat, jackplate,
height, prop, |
70
mph |
pitch,
etc......and what could be the best possible speed for this boat.
I run about |
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70 mph
now which is good but I would like to get a little more, I have only
had this |
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boat a
couple of months; I am used to it now but it took a while, I'm not
sure of |
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rpms
and water pressure as it is in storage now and it's been a while
since I have |
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been in
it. I'm think water pressure is between 30 and 40 if that
helps at all but |
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really
not sure. I think the rpm was around 5800 at WOT, any help would be |
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appreciated.
Thanks........ |
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A: I like the 4 blades on the
TR21's....and if you're having excessive ventilation |
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at
holeshot my first question would have to be....do you have the black
plastic |
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diffuser
ring installed between the prop and lower unit housing? If
not, add it and |
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retry....the
24 Raker and the 25 Renegade are probably what are going to be run |
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here....and
the manual plate will work fine....a hydraulic plate is nice but not |
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necessary. |
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You
should have the engine mounted at 6" over the transom and h2o
should be |
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about
30 psi on the OMC....6000 is the redline....but you should turn the
25" |
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Renegade
at 5600 or so.....maybe 5700. 70 gps is going to be the best
speed |
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the 200
will push the 21. |
00
Triton TR 20 |
Q:
Shouldn't my water pressure be higher than 7.5 WOT?
And what do I need |
00
200 Merc EFI |
to do
to get the maximum speed and water pressure. |
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25"
Tempest |
A: 10# psi is my
min.....but.....depending on the rig job, where the line is tied in |
5"
jackplate |
can
have an effect on psi readings.....if it is in the top of the block
it's low....if it's |
65
mph @ 5400 |
spliced
in the pee line it's about right. |
7.5#
psi |
If it's
ever been hot you need a new impeller....may need one
anyway....cheap |
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insurance. |
00
Triton TR 19 PD |
Q:
Todd, I have a few questions for you, I don't know too much about
props and |
98
175 Johnson |
currently
I have a Renegade 25 on it. |
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I have
located a few used props, and I am not sure if they will fit my
engine. |
25"
Renegade |
Do you
know if the following props will fit my Johnson Ficht 175, and if
so, which |
10"
jackplate |
ones
would be better for my boat/motor combination, I am looking for more
power |
69
mph @ 5950 |
to get
on plane. I am not too worried about top speed. #1. 22"
OMC SST, |
12#
psi |
#2.
22" Turbo 2+2 4 blade, #3. Composite CMP 22 4 blade. |
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Thanks
for any info you could give me on this. |
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A: Forgive my candor but forget
all 3.....all junk! Make sure the blowout ring |
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is
removed from the 25" Renegade now....that could help wiht on
plane venting |
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(allow
more slip for quicker rpm during planing)....next is try a 24
Raker....and |
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then
last is try a 23" Renegade...dropping pitch is going to put you
into "no no land" |
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fast....above
6000. Having your 25 thinned might help holeshot....but up
topend |
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rpms
also..... |
01
Triton 200XP |
Q:
Todd, I have had problems getting any set-up info. for this boat
what-so-ever. |
01
225 Merc EFI |
Do you
have any test info, or setup info. regarding jackplate height,
props, |
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estimated
speed I should expect or just basic setup for this boat? |
25"
Tempest |
I would
really like to know if there is anyone out there who has tested or
setup |
6"
jackplate |
a
200XP. Any information would be helpful. Thanks a
bunch..... |
5
1/2" off transom |
A: If it were mine....this is
what I'd run.....27 Tempest set at 6.5" up on a 10" |
76
mph @ 5600 |
plate...this
would be good for about 5900 rpm and close to 80 mph..... |
17#
psi
|
This is
a drivers setup for speed and not for all around handling...if I
were rigging |
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for
best of all worlds I'd go 25 Tempest, 8" plate and about
6.25" up....good for |
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about
77. |
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The 27
Yamaha ProSeries is a good choice for this rig also...the 4 blade
isn't tho. |
01
Triton TR 19 |
Q:
Todd: I feel like my motor was originally set-up too low. When
I measure from |
01
200 Merc Opti |
the top
of the jackplate that is mounted to the boat (it is a Pro HiJacker
HP) to the |
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top of
the bracket on the motor, it registers 5". This is after
I took it up more than |
25"
Tempest |
1"
which has really helped the chinewalk problem. The question
is, do I need to go |
6"
jackplate |
higher,
and is what feels like a "stall" when I come out of the
hole due to the height |
70
mph @ 5200 |
of the
engine? I raised the engine after I was only getting 65 mph on
the speedo |
30#
psi |
and
experiencing heavy chinewalk above that speed. The new height
has helped, |
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but
wanted to make sure I am measuring the height properly and what else
I may |
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need to
do. Overall, this height seems better. Thanks, Todd. I
appreciate your |
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efforts.....we
all do. |
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A: You still have tons of h2o
psi....mostly due to the front intakes on the nose of |
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the
lower unit....but....you're still low....start bringing it up, the
Opti will run at 6" |
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plus
but will probably be a happy medium at about 5.75". |
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Performance
and comfort only gets better with height....also borrow a 25 Trophy |
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for a
test pass.....I think you'll find it to be the prop for your rig
over the Tempest. |
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As for
the stall.....the problem with going higher is prop
ventilation....not a bog.... |
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I don't
really understand what the stall would indicate in those
terms....but I never |
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rig for
holeshot....especially if it causes chinewalk and costs performance
on the |
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top
end. |
02
Triton TX 20 |
Q:
Boat has run 81.4 w/ 28" Chopper 2 @ 5600 rpm GPS, (empty, no |
02
225 Merc EFI |
windshields),
I have a 27" Trophy Plus on the way, any tips on going faster? |
|
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26"
Trophy Plus |
A: I've never see a Merc that
had all the trim it needed from the factory....I add |
10"
jackplate |
trim
extenders to my customers boats for another 2 mph....80 mph is
getting close |
6
3/4" off transom |
to tops
tho.....it's the law of limited returns. |
79
mph @ 5900 |
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25#
psi |
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02
Triton TR20 pdc |
Q:
My question is which motor will work better and with which prop, OMC
225 |
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Ficht
or the 225 EFI Merc. All I really want is to be able to do mid
70's and stay |
6"
jackplate
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alive!!
Would consider a Merc 200 EFI as an alternative. Do not want
to get into |
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the
chine walking if possible. Been there before and would rather
give up a little |
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speed
for an easier drive. |
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A: I would recommend the 225 EFI
Merc....but you're putting it on a racehorse... |
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and
it's going to chine at wot. The 26 Tempest is my fave on this
rig and will give |
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upper
70's with a 10" plate....and chine isn't all that bad....but
it's still there. |
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The 21
with a 225 would be a better choice for lower speed/less chine...but
it will |
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be
there also. |
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If I
had to give a good chine free idea it would be for a 21/200 Opti at
6" up and |
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a 25
Trophy......high 60's..... |
98
Triton TR 19 |
Q:
Todd: Bought the boat direct from the bank. They stuck the
Laser II from |
98
175 Merc EFI |
another
repoed boat on just so I had something to push with. |
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Boat
has three speeds - stopped, porpoising and chinewalking. |
26"
Laser II |
Where
should I start in hopes of taming this beast? What I really
want is good top |
6"
jackplate |
end
but, I would like to stay on plane at slow speeds (10-15 mph) for
back |
5"
off transom |
channel
cruising. I plan on starting with a new hydraulic jackplate
but not sure what |
62
mph @ 5250 |
size,
and a 24" Trophy. Water pressure is very low, almost none
at idle. |
10#
psi |
I
suspect impeller is bad. Any insight in how to get started
would be greatly |
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appreciated.
Thanks........ |
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A: 6" plate with the engine
set at 4 3/4" to 5.25" over the transom....the prop |
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is a
25" Trophy....I don't recommend the 24 for anything unless it's
very heavy |
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and has
trouble getting max rpm.....the 24 spins a lot of rpms and has no
speed |
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advantage.
The plate and the heights give will help your chine dramatically. |
00
Triton TR 186 |
Q:
Is this the best it gets? |
00
150 Merc |
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A:
23" Tempest is the prop....and you can come up some more
according to the |
23"
Trophy |
h2o
psi.....all said and done 63 is about it tho....they're comfortable
but not fast. |
6"
jackplate |
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4"
off transom |
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61.5
mph @ 5650 |
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13-16#
psi |
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