95
Procraft |
Q:
Starts to chinewalk at 65 speedo, have to trim back down. I want
to go |
SuperPro 200 |
faster and be able to get more bow
lift. I have a Doel Fin and it gets out of the hole |
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fine. Do you have any
suggestions? |
25"
Laser 2 |
A:
Prop is a junker.....Laser 2 isn't very good....go to a 25 Tempest and
I think |
65
@ 5800 rpm |
you'll believe you have a new
boat...... |
15#
psi |
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83
Procraft 1540v Pro |
Q:
I know you will tell me to get a jackplate right off the bat.
And probably a |
89
100 Sea Ray |
different prop too. (Input DEFINITELY
appreciated.) What speed and rpms |
(Merc) |
should this combo be running?
The boat felt unstable at over 50 mph, hydrofoil |
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added. BIG difference!! I feel
with such a small and GOOD hull, this thing will |
20"
Quicksilver |
Fly... What speed should this
boat be able to achieve? All out, everything tight... |
7.5"
below pad |
I do plan to get a plate. Is there
anything "carved in stone" about the setup, |
54.8
mph @ 5300 |
jackplate, height, width, etc., for
this boat/motor combo? A big thanks in advance... |
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A:
I'd say you're running pretty damn good right now...you have to decide
what |
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you want to do tho....if you want to
plate it, it will make a difference in prop |
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selection.....if you don't want to
plate it then going to a better prop will help now. |
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The Quicksilver doesn't have a lot of
blade area.....and in your case a Laser II could |
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be better....if you plate it, a
Vengeance or Tempest will probably be better. |
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What do I think it should
run?......hell, you're doing better than I would have guessed |
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already! |
95
Procraft 210 |
Q:
Chinewalks at WOT and full trim, also seems a bit slow at WOT and if |
Dual Pro |
possible would like to get a little
better fuel economy at cruising speeds. |
95
225 Merc XRi efi |
The prop seems to break loos slightly
on my hole shote but I am not too |
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concerned. The motor is bolted
directly to the transom in the third hole from the |
24"
Trophy |
top. Just wondering what my
options are. Thanks...... |
No
jackplate |
A:
Your options are limited.....raise or lower the engine on the transom
1 hole |
62
mph @ 5400/5500 |
at a time....play with props to find
some more performance....or the best bet, add |
10-12#
psi |
a jackplate....then you can fine tune
to your hearts desire. |
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Most I know who run your rig are
getting 70 mph with an 8" plate and a 25 Trophy. |
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Fuel efficiency could go up....or
down. You're not operating in your engine's |
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uppermost performance zone....getting
to 5800 could hurt economy. |
00
Procraft 210 SP |
Q:
Todd, I am not happy with this setup, the holeshot and midrange are
slow. |
00
225 Merc Opti |
Can you tell me what I should do, can
I use Trophy? What size should I use? |
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How fast will this boat run gps.
Thanks...... |
25"
Tempest Plus |
A:
The 210 is a BIG boat! The OptiMax needs to be closer to
5750.....so....I'd |
10"
jackplate |
recommend the 24" Trophy.....it
will get the r's you need and give more transom |
2
1/4" below pad |
and bow lift....a good thing with a
10" plate. |
72
mph @ 5400 |
I'm not an Opti performance
fan....from my experience they are usually 2 mph |
26#
psi |
slower than the 225 EFI.....so.....I'd
say 68-70 gps is what to look for...these boats |
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with a 225 EFI and a 25" Trophy
do low 70's....very low. |
00
Procraft |
Q:
Would going to a 3 blade Tempest gain any more top end performance? |
Pro 185 SC |
If so what pitch would you recommend?
Also what is the optimal rpm range on this |
01
150 Merc XR6 |
motor that gives the peak horsepower? |
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A:
Yes, the 3 blade Tempest will give more speed compared to the
Trophy....here's |
24" Trophy
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the tricky part....a 23" Tempest
will be too small.....a 25" may be too big...but...I'd |
2.5" below the pad
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recommend the 25" first. It
needs to turn about where you are now rpm-wise to |
67-68 mph @ 5300
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work. The 23" will work up to
about 5700..... |
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Your engine will turn up past 6K....it
just makes no power after about 5700..... |
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5500 is what the factory recommends
for redline....but 5700 by yourself is ok. |
96
Procraft V180B |
Q: Todd....from
what I've read about the Laser II falling off with a load, was |
96
150 Merc XR6 |
wondering if the 23" Trophy Plus
would stop this problem. Boat runs exceptionally |
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well with one person (loaded), but
would like the same results with 2 people loaded. |
23"
Laser II |
I know top end speed will drop with 2
people, but would still appreciate your |
6"
jackplate |
advice. |
64
mph @ 5500 |
A:
The 23" Trophy will make you a happy camper...should be better
top speed also. |
00
Procraft 165 |
Q:
I just bought this boat new, and know nothing about setups. I do
however |
00
90 Merc |
know that it's a good idea to keep a
spare prop in the boat. Anyhow, I want to |
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buy a prop to run and keep the factory
as a spare. Also, would this boat be |
23"
Prop |
setup right from factory? And
I'm curious why the other boats I see at even lower |
48
mph @ 5200 rpm |
speeds throw a "rooster
tail". For performance vs. budget I'd think a jackplate |
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would be out of the question.
Could the engine itself be raised without the plate for |
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better performance/speed? The
boat doesn't turn very well at idle and slips pretty |
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bad in the curves, this however might
be from me having a fish and ski last. |
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The boat is 1150 lbs (hull), it has
the factory 3 blade 23" prop. Please give me an |
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idea of a replacement prop and maybe
some figures of possible performance. |
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One last note, when I trim the motor
up around 5500 rpm and stop, it automatically |
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falls back to 5200, however 5200 is
max speed but was just wondering if I should |
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question the dealer about the trim
falling. Thanks........ |
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A:
The 90 has a 5500 redline.....as opposed to the 115/125's 5250
redline....so |
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when considering a new prop it would
be best to get a few more rpms. |
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Now....the reason the trim falls is
because you pass from trim to tilt when you get as |
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high as you've been.....tilt is for
trailering....trim is for running....the unit is made to do |
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exactly as it's doing. |
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Since you are keel heavy with the fish
and ski, and it seems the prop is unloading |
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somewhat in the turns.....I'd
recommend a Trophy 4 blade.....probably a 20" pitch, |
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but the pitch may vary depending on
your load and conditions....the 20 is where I'd |
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start....you may need a 19". |
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You need to get an idea of how high
the propshaft is in relation to the pad......or if |
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padless, the bottom of the
hull......with no plate it's not unusual to run as much as |
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5" under pad......raising and
lowering the engine on the transom is always a possibility |
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......but it's time consuming and
messy considering the silicone must be removed and |
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re-applied each time....also, the nuts
on the bolts are 1 time use only and must be |
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discarded....in all likelihood you
could go up one hole on the bracket. |
01
Procraft 200 SP |
Q:
I am unsure how to set up my new boat. What is the water
pressure and max |
01
200 Merc Optimax |
rpm that this motor should turn at
full throttle. When at full throttle the boat |
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chinewalks and when I get down to 1/2
tank and below the boat seems to bounce |
25"
Tempest Plus |
up and down. Can you tell me
what the setting should be on the jackplate. |
10"
jackplate |
I previously owned a Stratos and was
set from factory and was bery happy so I |
75/76
mph @ 5500 |
am very inexperienced with setting
this boat up. |
30+
psi |
A:
30 psi is VERY high h20 for a 3 liter Optimax....most are in the 12-15
psi range. |
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This makes me think you may be too
low. Max rpm is 5750 for your engine. |
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I think you have all the right
components although I would have rigged a 6" plate |
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and probably would have rigged a
25" Trophy 4 blade over the Tempest. |
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At 5500 you're doing well.....right at
68-70 gps speed.....about the max one would |
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expect for the Procraft. I think
you need to start raising the jackplate.....1/2" for the |
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first time and a 1/4"each time
after that.....although I'm not sure more than 2 |
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adjustments will be necessary. |
95
Procraft V-180B |
Q:
Hi Todd: My boat handles ok but then again I haven't driven many
others. It |
95
150 Mariner |
doesn't chine at full trim because it
has reverse sponsons. Do you think I could get |
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any more speed out of it and would it
be safe? Is a 4 blade prop an option or will |
25"
Quicksilver |
I lose top end speed? |
1.5"
off transom |
A:
I'd give a Trophy a try.....borrow it and not buy it
tho.....the Procraft is a stable |
65
mph |
boat.....a few more mph wouldn't be
adverse. |
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Since you didn't list an rpm I'd
advise a 24" Trophy......but a 23" is probably what |
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it's going to do best with.....you
need to be in the 5500 range. |
01
Procraft |
Q:
Todd, I know that you deal with bass boats, but can you answer some
questions |
200 Combo |
about a fish n ski. I just
bought this boat new and like everyone else, I want to make |
01
200 Merc |
sure it will perform the best it can.
It is a carb 200. I don't ski, mostly ride the |
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family and fish. I have heard
from several people to ditch the Laser prop? Will a |
21
Laser II |
jackplate give a fish n ski any more
performance? I know this is a heavy boat, but |
58
mph |
any advice you have is greatly
appreciated. |
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A: The Laser II has a decent holeshot....but dang near any
prop will beat it |
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everywhere else. |
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I think a plate is a necessity...but
once you swap to a good prop you may not feel the |
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need to plate it. My
choice....for all FS's is the Merc Vengeance .....holeshot will be |
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as good or better and will give
superior lift and carry capability....swap props first...... |
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then add a 6" plate to fine tune. |
01
Procraft Pro 175 |
Q:
I need to raise my rpms a couple hundred, am looking into maybe a
25" or 24" |
01
125 Merc |
Trophy. No holeshot, very slow,
it handles very well at wot and trimmed up. |
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The whole boat seems to lift well. I
need some advice or comments. I don't know |
26"
Laser II |
why the factory puts a 26" on
them. I know that the Nitro LX700 with a 125 has |
5
1/2" jackplate |
the same prop. Thanks Todd...... |
4"
off transom |
A:
The 125 has a 5250 redline and won't take much more.....that's one
reason they |
58
mph @ 5000 |
come heavily propped. The 26 is
a hoss for the 125 to get rollin....I think you're |
15#
psi |
on the right track with a
Trophy.....but I wouldn't be surprised to find that a 23" or |
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even 22" is what you need when
compared to the outdated Laser II.....this should |
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add performance across the board. |
00
Procraft Pro 205 |
Q:
I have tried a friend's Tempest 2 25", slower holeshot same top
end. I think a |
00
200L Merc |
setback and 4 blade Trophy might be
the ticket, but what size setback and what |
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size Trophy? From what I have
read and what people have told me, this would be |
23"
Tempest 2 |
a good setup for the boat. What
do you think? Thanks in advance........ |
62
mph @ 5500 |
A:
I'd go 6" with the plate.....and I'd see what the 23" turned
with a little elevation |
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and setback....the engine you have
will pull thru 5800 with ease....and you need to |
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prop it to keep it in that area. If
you do gain a good amount with the plate I'd look |
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at a 24" Trophy....it will spin
far more r's than the 25" Trophy.....more than the |
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200 rpms that should be common.
5600 rpm minimum with yourself and a TX load.. |
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full fuel. |
96
Procraft |
Q:
I just purchased this boat and had to lower the motor to 2.5"
below the pad to |
200 Super Pro |
get water pressure above 10 psi. Boat
is super slow to plane with fishing load. |
96
200 Merc |
24" pitch Trophy was also slow to
plane and over-revs on top end. Boat is stable |
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to 60 mph on speedo, then begins to
chinewalk past that speed. Boat likes neutral |
25"
Trophy-big tube |
trim to run the best, any more trim
and the nose heads for the sky. Any help with |
12"
jackplate |
prop selection for better holeshot or
cure for ill handling above 60 mph will be |
Propshaft
is 2.5" |
appreciated! P.S. The lower unit
is stock with top 4 holes plugged. Thanks..... |
below
the pad |
A:
Your r's and speed look good....the h2o looks ok also....it
will live at 12 psi |
74
mph @ 6150 |
but I like 15 better. |
15#
psi |
In all honesty I have never setup an
SP180 or 200 with a Trophy....I've always |
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rigged with Tempest, the big hub
Trophy can cause a loss in exhaust venting and |
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hurt holeshot....as well as be a
little slower on top. |
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Here's what I'd do.....BORROW a
25" Tempest....make sure not to get a A46. |
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Pull PVS plugs to allow venting during
holeshot....I usually pull all 4 and add till it |
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will not over vent when planing. The 3
blade might help the chinewalk because of |
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less transom lift and less bow lift.
The 25 Tempest should spin a little more than the |
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25 Trophy so watch the r's....you're
close already. I think you might lower some |
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more to help control chine also....but
try the 25 3 blade with the current setup now. |
97
Procraft |
Q:
Todd, this is my first bass boat ;) |
180 Bass DC |
I've read all your other Procraft
setups....and it's clear the Laser2 has to go...was |
97
150 Mariner EFI |
thinking 23" Tempest. Also,
is there some formula to decide on how much jackplate |
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you need? 6",8",
10" etc.? Any idea how much performance I would gain from
the |
23"
Laser II |
new prop and jackplate setup...what
would you suggest. |
No
jackplate |
A:
23" Tempest would be my first choice....the formula for
plate distance is far |
Propshaft
is 3" |
more theory than
science.....but....the bigger plates, 10", will cause the boat to
have |
below
the pad |
ill handling characteristics at low
speed and mid range. The 6" will be good at low |
68
mph @ 5600 |
and mid ranges but will cost a tad of
speed at the high side....the 8" is a good well |
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rounded choice that offers the best of
both worlds...that being said, I'd recommend |
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a 6" Rapid Jack. Start at
3" under pad and work your way up......but I doubt you'll |
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have to.....this will be pretty close. |
99
Procraft |
Q:
I am not satisfied with the top end of this boat and motor setup.
Bought the |
200 Bass DC |
boat new with the motor bolted to the
transom and the aforementioned prop on it. |
99
200 Merc |
Ran 62 mph @ 5600 rpm. Bought a
10" RapidJack jackplate. Fiddled with the |
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motor. Ended up 2 1/2"
under the pad. 64 mph @ 5600 rpm and 14# psi. |
25" Laser II PVS
|
Still a lot of boat in the water.
Please give me your suggestion. I'm at my wits end |
10" jackplate
|
and not very please with this boat's
performance. It's a very heavy boat but I'd like |
64 mph @ 5600
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to see 67+. It is a 200 Merc for
goodness sake! |
14# psi
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A:
Your cure is simple.....CHUCK THE LASER II !!! Totally wrong
prop for the |
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Procraft. Go with a 24"
Trophy....maybe a 25" Tempest, but I don't think you'll be |
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able to spin the 25".....there's
a lot of difference between spinning a 25" Laser II |
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and a 25" Trophy or
Tempest.....change props......I promise you'll be happy! |
98
Procraft 185 Pro |
Q:
No problem yet, just looking for a recommended Merc prop and engine
height. |
00
150 Merc |
I'm the same as everyone else, I want
the holeshot and top end! |
No jackplate
|
A:
Prop is a 23" Tempest, you need a jackplate or there's no
sense talking |
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engine height. If you did have a
plate, 2.5" under pad would be the setting. |
88
Procraft 1780V |
Q:
Hello Todd, I've had this boat since new and have always wanted
more top |
87
GT 150 Johnson |
speed out of it but never did anything
about it until now. |
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I just had a T&H 6" jackplate
and a water pressure gauge installed. I haven't had |
23" Shooter
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the boat on the water yet since the
jackplate was installed. When the motor was |
1 1/4" off transom
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sitting on the transom it was in the
2nd hole from the bottom, putting it about 1 1/4" |
54 mph @ 5100
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above the transom. I have raised
the motor and the jackplate to where it would have |
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been sitting without a jackplate, just
above the 3rd hole from the bottom. |
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Any idea if this is a good place to
start with this to improve the top end speed? |
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Do you think I will be able to gain
some additional top end by just raising the engine |
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height using the same prop? I
asked dealer about the OMC Raker prop and he |
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suggested going to a 22".
What are your ideas on a setup for a boat this old? |
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What kind of minimal water pressure
should I watch out for also. I would rather |
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be a little on the safe side of the
pressure. |
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A:
I'm with your dealer....I think the 22" Raker would be a
vast improvement over |
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the Shooter (second worst prop ever
made). Set the engine where the propshaft |
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is 3" under the pad....this is a
good starting point. |
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I think you'll make a decent jump in
performance with the plate....but as always..... |
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don't change 2 things at once till you
know how the first change affects performance. |
94
Procraft Pro180 |
Q:
Too much boat in the water and not much speed. Can I change the
prop to a |
94
150 Merc XR6 |
4 blade Trophy 24" and do I raise
or lift the motor. I know this boat can run better. |
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It handles great. Can you help
me get a little more? Motor position and proper |
23" LaserII
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prop pitch? Thanks for the help
!! |
6" jackplate
|
A:
You're on the right track! The Laser II is a horrible
prop for heavier hulls |
54 mph @ 5500
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and even the wrong Trophy or Tempest
will perform better. |
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The Trophy will knock your rpms in the
head compared to the Laser II.....it will |
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probably wind up being a 23" or
22" Trophy to keep the r's in the 5500 range. |
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You'll have to adjust the engine by
feel....not knowing where you are now kinda hurts |
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a tad....set the propshaft centerline
at 3" below pad when you re-prop....the prop |
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swap will help a LOT! |
98
Procraft 17 Bass |
Q:
My rpms at WOT are at 4800. I still have at least 400 rpms to play
with to |
98
120 Merc Force |
gain more speed. Would reducing
prop pitch do the job or what would you |
23" Stiletto
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suggest. Thanks........ |
2" off transom
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A:
The 23" is way too much prop. At those rpms you're only making
100 hp |
50 mph @ 4800
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opposed to 120 when the engine is in
its top operating rpm. I'd drop at least |
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2 pitch sizes to a 21".
That should gain 4-500 rpms and put you where you need |
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to be. Your holeshot will be
much better also....well some better anyway. |
91 Procraft 170 Pro
|
Q:
Todd, this boat runs good however it requires a lot of trim and the
holeshot |
91 135 Mariner
|
really stinks. I know the 135
does not have the umph! of the other V6's on the |
21"
Trophy
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low end. Is there anything you
would suggest with the setup to help these problems? |
6"
jackplate |
A:
Other than reconfiguring the PVS plugs (if so equipped) in
the prop to allow |
3"
off the transom |
some venting on holeshot, I'd say
don't mess with it.....those are pretty strong |
66 mph @ 5800
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numbers and you're running well. |
95 Procraft |
Q:
The boat that I have looks very similar to the 20' Bullet. It
is a '94 SP200 |
Superpro 200 |
prototype boat that Procraft (maybe
a bit heavier) used the Bullet and Allison hulls |
98 245 Merc |
to build. I am a little unsure
of the weight but I know that the boat is lighter than the |
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later Superpro boats and the hull
has been completely changed. I did have a 200 |
25" Trophy
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Merc that blew up and when that
happened about 2 months ago I built a ProMax |
14" jackplate
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engine with about 245 hp with the
stock gearcase and Land & Sea nosecone. |
65-6600 rpm
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I have really had no advice on the
setup as no one had this hull. As mentioned, the |
30# psi
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hull looks very close to the Bullet.
Back when I first bought the boat 6 years ago a |
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number of the local hotboat guys
tried props on it only to find that the Trophy small |
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hub 25 seemed to run and handle the
best. I just got finished the breakin on the |
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souped up ProMax engine and the boat
seems to turn about 65 or 6600 rpms with |
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very good acceleration but I am
trying to get the setup right and figure out which prop |
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would be best. Your thoughts
would be greatly appreciated. I really do not know |
|
whether to try a different lower
unit, etc? Engine height? It seems the engine really |
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wants to get up and go but it's like
something is holding it back? It accelerates very |
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good and at about 3/4 throttle seems
taht I have about 1/3 throttle that makes no |
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difference in the boat. |
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A:
I don't think a lower unit swap will matter.....the Land
& Sea nosecone is a |
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good one.....if welded on straight. |
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I'd guess from long distance you
need to go up.....and I'd probably be looking at a |
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25" Tempest to try also.
I'm very familiar with the SP's....but not with that kind of |
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power. You may wind up with a
26" or 27" Tempest when all is done. I've never |
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seen one run the Trophy when all is
said and done....too much transom lift. |
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Get back to me with some GPS numbers
and let's see how efficient you are. |