01
Triton 200 XP |
Q:
I am having problem with my top end speed. It just seems too
slow for this rig. |
01
225 Merc |
Was
told by my dealer that a 27" prop would fix the top end problem
bringing the |
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rig
to the mid to upper 70's. Is this true? If not, what prop
would you suggest? |
6"
jackplate |
A: Just changing the pitch will
gain 1-2 mph from the 25 to 27....but you still |
6"
off the transom |
have
setup issues to cure. |
72.8
mph @ 5800 |
At
6" up....if that's where you're at....you're too low....start
bringing it up....also..... |
15#
psi |
use
the 25" for testing. If you can get it into the rev limiter
or over 6K then step up |
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in
pitch size. |
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I
can get the 200XP into the 80's (low 80's) with a 10" plate, a
27" Tempest and |
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several
tricks....the normal angler will see 74-76 when it's done with a
6" plate |
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and
reasonable setup. |
02
Triton TR20 |
Q:
Hello Todd, I am getting a new TR20 and am wanting to set this boat up
to |
02
225 Merc |
pop
80 mph. I've been told the best way to do this is with a TR20
(single console |
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for
the weight) with the Merc 225 EFI and a 10" Detwiler hydraulic
plate. |
25"
Yamaha
|
I
have a worked over Yamaha racing prop I'm running on my current Triton
and |
10"
jackplate
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the
prop gave me 3 mph top end. The boat, engine and jackplate will
all be shipped |
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to
the dealer and set up at the dealer. What suggestions can you
offer on this rig? |
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I
need to keep the boat stock as I fish Operation Bass and don't want
any chances |
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of
someone protesting me for having a worked up engine. Thanks for your
help.... |
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A: All looks good....the 10"
plate is a must.....a hydro isn't but will help....unless |
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the
25" has been super cupped it won't get you to 80....the rev
limiter simply won't |
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allow
the engine to spin enough r's to get there.....I think a 27"
Yamaha with the |
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same
treatment will do it tho. |
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You're
going to have to spin some higher r's....so as soon as breakin is
over, switch |
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to
Amsoil......I like Klotz better but Amsoil is super clean burning and
will handle |
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up
to 7500 r's....you on the other hand will need to be able to run
6000....an |
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efficient
6K. Change lower lube to Klotz Flex Drive also. |
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Now....just
having these components won't get you there.....no 36V trolling motors |
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......mount
the charger as far left as possible and the oil tank where the spare
prop |
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goes....keep
all weight rearward....even if you have to go aft to tie worm rigs
on.... |
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keep
plastics in the front and all crankbaits and such in the passenger
side rear |
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compartment.....loading
a Toon correctly is worth 1 mph minimum....as much as I |
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despise
MotorGuide....they are light on the bow and will give more speed over
the |
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Minnkota
74. |
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Get
the boat....get it broken in....get your best speed and then I'll give
you one last |
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top
secret tip for 2 more mph....a tip that can't be broadcast. |
00
Triton TR21 |
Q:
Todd, I just bought this boat and not sure what the best setup would
be. |
00
225 Johnson HO |
I
want the best in between setup that I can achieve. I don't know how to
measure |
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the
height of transom or above pad. I was hoping you could help me
out. |
25"
Renegade |
Also,
how can you tell if I have the Lightning gearcase?
Thanks......... |
6"
jackplate |
A: You've got one of my favorite
combos there.....the lightning case will be silver... |
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and
will have 3 water inlets in each side....and a semi nosecone....but
hope you |
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don't
have a lightning....I don't care for them at all. |
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Now.....for
a mid range setup here's what you need.....25" Renegade, 6"
plate and |
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the
engine set at 6" over the transom.....this is measured by laying
a straight edge |
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across
the transom so it extends into the void of the jackplate......measure
from the |
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bottom
of the edge to the underside of the engine mounting brackets where the |
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engine
would rest on the transom were there no plate..... |
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The
25 Renegade is slower on top than the 27.....but handles better at low
mid |
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range
and will get out of the hole a shade faster.....when you get used to
the setup |
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and
want to go fast this is what you need.....27 Renegade, 2" spacers
for 8" of |
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setback
and set the engine at 6.5" up..... |
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The
HO will spin the 25 to 6 grand easily....and will spin the 27 about
the same.... |
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only
1.5 mph faster and a little longer to get there.....my tricked out
21's with the |
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HO's
were good for 77 light.....so mid 70's is very attainable. |
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You've
got a great boat there.....I'm sure you're gonna love it. |
01
Triton TR20
|
Q:
I am trying to get more rpm out of my engine and more speed. |
01 225
Yamaha
|
The
boat feels like it has a lot of power left but it starts to chine and
I have to back |
|
it
down. Should I raise the engine or go to a 25" prop? What
would be the best |
27"
Yamaha ProS |
setup
for this boat? |
6"
jackplate |
A: You've got to bring it up!
That rig will run at almost 7" high and get better |
72
mph @ 5200/5300 |
with
the chine also....the 27" is perfect for that rig....I'd want to
see you with a bit |
19#
psi |
more
setback......like 8". |
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You
are going to have to spend some driving time.....not wanting to
patrionize you |
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but
listen closely!....... |
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DO
NOT TRIM IT TILL IT'S UNCONTROLLABLE!....figure the point where |
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you
start to lose it and don't go there! Spend much time at the
comfortable level...... |
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and
then step up a tad.....and spend a lot of time there before going up
more on the |
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trim. |
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If
you try to wring it all out now you'll just get more
discouraged.....take time..... |
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and
if possible have an experienced chine walk driver give you some
hands-on tips..... |
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this
will help more than anything. |
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Read
all the chine articles on BBC.....they contain some great info from
several |
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experienced
drivers. |
01
Triton TR22
|
Q:
I'm coming out of a Gambler Intimidator that ran pretty good. This is
my first |
00 225
Evinrude Ficht
|
Triton
and need some info. The Evinrude came off my Gambler and has the |
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Lightning
gearcase. I need to know where to start with props and what kind
of |
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speed
can I expect with this setup. I moved up to the Triton for big
water. |
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I'll
be fishing Everstart Northern Division this year. Thanks for any help. |
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A: The Lightning case is gonna
hurt some...the standard case will give more lift. |
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The
22 likes 3 blades.....but....with the Lightning case I'd recommend the
25" |
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Renegade. |
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The
22's I've run with 225's were 70 mph boats....some hi 60's when
loaded.... |
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great
ride though.....and tons of storage. My 22/300 was an 80 mph
boat..... |
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the
250's push them to upper 70's.....they won't set any records but
they'll take |
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some
very big water. Set the engine at 6" over transom for
starters.....depending |
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on
your load you may have to drop some. |
01
Triton TR 186
|
Q:
Just ended my break in oil. Have no jackplate. Motor is hanging in the
4th hole |
01 150
Merc EFI
|
from
the top. Boat seems ok, still learning the feel of it at 55 mph
+. |
|
Would
it help to raise to 3rd hole, and what kind of difference would I
see taking |
24"
Trophy Plus |
out
plugs in prop. Thanks........ |
4th
hole from top |
A: Removing PVS plugs only
affects holeshot...bigger hole = more slippage.... |
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as
for raising the engine on the transom....I'd either get a plate or
leave it where it is. |
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The
24" Trophy is probably going to be a bit large tho.....23"
Trophy or Tempest |
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will
do better.....keep the rpms in the 5500 range for full power. |
99
Triton TR18 |
Q:
I start to get some chinewalk with this at this speed and setup.
I really don't |
99
150 Merc EFI |
want
a jackplate, but would a 24" Trophy help any.
Thanks....... |
|
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23"
Tempest |
A:
No....... |
2"
off the transom |
|
62
mph @ 5250 rpm |
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12#
psi |
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02
Triton TR21 |
Q:
Going down to dealer to hang around while he rigs it. Have my
choice of prop. |
02
Merc 250XB Pro |
Suggestions
on prop? |
|
A:
I like the 26" Trophy.....some run the 27" Tempest.....but
with 6300+ rpm it's |
8"
jackplate
|
hard
to beat the speed and load carrying ability of the good ol 25"
Trophy. |
|
Make
sure they rig it in the bottom hole of the jackplate.....keep as
much of the |
|
plate
touching as possible....in other words....don't rig to have to use
all the plate to |
|
get
where you need to run.....this greatly reduces plate
strength....have them set it |
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at
6" over transom to start.....you'll be going up tho. |
99
Triton TX21 |
Q:
I'm going to go with a RapidJack (should I get a 6"
or the adjustable 7-8"), and |
99
200 Merc EFI |
what
height would be best. Also I'm thinking about putting Boyesen
reeds on my |
Offshore |
motor,
do you have any comments on them? Lastly I'm also thinking
about the |
|
new
nose cone with low water pickups from Portabracket. I
appreciate your help. |
25"
Trophy Plus |
A: For a heavier TX you're
running pretty dang well....especially for a 200 small |
2"
off transom |
block.
Anyhow....I'd go with the 6" plate.....a bigger plate will tax
the 200 at |
67
mph @ 5700 |
mid
range and lower speeds. I think 5.25" up would be a good
setting. |
19#
psi |
The
Boyesens will add NO performance. They will help throttle
response some and |
|
may
add a millisecond at holeshot but that's it at best.....where they
shine is at rpms |
|
of
6K+.....if they break they won't damage the engine. |
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As
for the Porta cone....mmmm I wouldn't. If you need a cone for
water pickup |
|
then
add the torquemaster scoops. The cone will cause a loss in
performance due |
|
to
loss of left....something you don't need to happen on the TX....it
will add no speed. |
|
Once
you get the plate installed and a good setup you should be in the 70
mph |
|
range....nothing
to sneeze at....if then you feel like you need more umph....a
tighter |
|
set
of heads will up compression and be very easy to do without great
cost and will |
|
add
the most performance. |
01
Triton TR186 |
Q:
I bought a CMC 5 1/2" jackplate. What height do I need to set
the jackplate |
01
125 Merc |
for
maximum speed and handling? I also have a Mercury Laser II 22". |
|
Do
I need to go to the Tempest 23"? After I install the
plate and prop, what |
22"
Merc Laser II |
should
my water pressure be? With these improvements is this a good setup
for |
|
maximum
performance? |
|
A: The TR186 is too heavy for
the Laser II......so yes.....a Trophy will do better. |
|
As
to plate and engine height, I don't know. I've never plated or
ran a 186/125-115 |
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combo
with a plate.....honestly not sure I would have recommended a plate
for the |
|
4
cylinder. |
|
I'd
set the propshaft at 3" under pad for starters.....and find a
21 or 22 Trophy. |
01
Triton 200 XP |
Q:
Todd, I just purchased this boat new. I am having problems getting
setup |
01
225 Merc EFI |
information
because of the limited number of these boats on the market.
The boat |
|
had
a 25" Tempest on it when purchased. I could get 77 mph on
gps but was |
27"
Tempest |
hitting
the rev-limiter at 5800 rpm. I was told to try a 27"
Tempest but my speed |
6"
jackplate |
and
rpm dropped considerably. I am concerned about the low water
pressure but |
6"
off transom |
reps
have told me this motor doesn't have high water pressure. Can
you recommend |
71
mph @ 5200 |
a
prop (manufacturer, pitch and blade #) along with a starting point
for my jackplate? |
12#
psi |
The
jackplate was setup from Marshalls Marine at 5" but I was
having bad |
|
chinewalking
problems. I have raised the motor to approx. 6" (the
motor is bolted |
|
to
the plate at the 2nd hole). Any setup information you have along
with performance |
|
information
is greatly appreciated. I have been told this boat should run
80 mph. |
|
A: 12 psi is OK on the 3
liter.....don't go lower. I'd recommend a 26"
Tempest |
|
set
at 6.5".....plus you need 4 more inches of setback to ever get
on up there. |
|
Have
a 26" Trophy handy to try also....you might have to drop to
6.25" with the |
|
Trophy
tho. The test 200 XP, LIGHT, ran 81.....look for 77-80
at best when |
|
everything
is done. The higher you go the better the chine will get
also....... |
01
Triton TR21 |
Q:
Thinking about getting this combo. Not too many guys running the XB
and I'm |
01
250 Merc XB |
not
sure why?? Have you been in this set-up and what do you think?
I was going |
|
to
go with the 3.1 225 Yami but I want more speed. Any thoughts?? |
|
A: The XB is a fine
motor.....but it's very pricey compared to the 225 EFI....plus |
|
it's
a limited run engine. Either the 250 or 225 Yam will do fine....the
250 will be |
|
consistently
5 mph faster and will be 4-6 K more. |
01
Triton TR21 |
Q:
Todd, I am a new owner of a TR21 and before I pick-up I can have
dealership |
01
225 Yamaha |
swap
the current prop. Boat has a Yam ProSeries 25. I
primarily fish the Potomac |
|
River
which is shallow and full of pleasure boater traffic. So that
I get decent speed |
25"
ProSeries |
and
holeshot, do you recommend I stay with the 25 and 6 inch plate or
swap out for |
6"
jackplate |
a
10" JP and 27 Yam prop. I am not a speed type, nor do I
have any seat time in a |
|
fast
boat (Rangers) with the purpose of the boat to get me to my next
destination |
|
relatively
quickly and fish. I always figured a 4 blade was preferred
over the 3 blade |
|
for
holeshot and rough water conditions. Your advice please. |
|
A:
I'd suggest the 27 Yam PS and an 8" plate.....although.....if
you spend much time |
|
dodging
cruiser wakes at barely planing speeds the 6" would probably be
advisable. |
|
The
27 will be as fast as the 25 on holeshot....you might get a little
acceleration |
|
degradation
but the 27" 3 blade is the prop the 21 and Yam like....the Merc
and |
|
OMC
like the 4.....go figure. |
|
The
25 will work....you'll eventually give up 1.5 mph tho between the
two.....that |
|
doesn't
seem like a big deal now....but someone will outdistance you one day
by |
|
1
mph and you'll wish you had it....especially since it costs no more. |
|
The
Yamaha runs very high....have the dealer set it at 6.5" over
the transom with the |
|
6"
plate or 7" with the 8" plate.....congrats on the new rig! |
00
Triton TR21 |
Q:
Used to run a 25 Trophy Plus with small hub. Cracked a blade
and replaced |
00
225 Merc EFI |
with
25 Trophy Plus large hub. Can you tell what difference this
should make in |
|
rpm,
holeshot, handling, mph, etc. Thanx..... |
25"
Trophy Plus |
A:
The one place I have noticed the biggest difference between large
and small hub |
6"
jackplate |
props
is on holeshot....especially with the Mercs. They like the
exhaust flowing over |
|
the
barrel of the hub during takeoff to help spin more r's....same when
loading on the |
|
trailer.
My 26 small hub Trophy was 1.7 mph faster than a large hub 26....but
it may |
|
be
because mine's an A45 and his is an A47 PVS. |
00
Triton TR20 |
Q:
When I first received my Triton I had a bad chine walking problem.
I was told |
01
200 Merc Opti |
to
raise it up. I am now at 5 1/2" running 5050 rpm, 60 mph
on speedo. |
|
I
am having trouble coming out of the hole, bad cavitation. Can you
tell me what the |
25"
Trophy |
correct
setting would be for max performance? What max rpm and speed should
I |
6"
jackplate |
be
running for this model? |
5.5"
off transom |
A: I run the same boat in one of
the local TX series and have done several tricks |
58-60
mph @ 5050 |
to
it....it will run 72 with 2 men and a load. |
19.5#
psi |
The
prop should be the 25 Tempest 3 blade....but the Trophy will work. 5
5/8" is |
|
where
I run the other. Plug all your PVS holes with solid inserts
and this should cure |
|
the
cavitation problem at holeshot....I think you need to figure the
chinewalk out |
|
before
making any adjustments....the 20 can be a handfull. Check on
BBC for an |
|
instructor
to help you get the chine under control. |
|
5750
is redline on the Optimax and 12 psi is min h20. |
01
Triton TR20 |
Q:
Todd, I was wondering should I be going faster than this. I am
able to reach |
01
225 Merc EFI |
74-75
at 5900/6000 with half tank of gas, two aboard and tournament gear. |
|
The
holeshot on the boat is great and top speed is good, but as soon as
I reach |
26"
Tempest Plus |
74
or 75 at 6000 the rev limiter goes off. What can I do to get
closer to 80 with a |
6"
jackplate |
tournament
load? |
6.25"
off transom |
A: You're showing a little
slippage there....you should be at 76-77 at 5900. |
74
mph @ 5900/6000 |
Anyhow......the
20' like the 3 blades over the 4.....try a 27" Tempest and
write me |
15#
psi |
back. |
|
|
01
Triton TR19 |
Q:
My question is a pre-purchase one. I know you can help.
I plan on buying a 01 |
|
TR19.
Either a VMax 200 or EFI 200. You once said they were pretty
close to the |
|
same.
First question is what should I expect to run (gps) with full
tournament load? |
|
Most
everyone I know runs a 25" prop so I guess that's what I'll
want. Do I need a |
|
10"
jack over the 6"? And one last question, would I be
happier spending another |
|
couple
thousand dollars for the TR20 with a 225 EFI? I just want a good,
fast |
|
smooth
riding and fishable boat. Can you please help? |
|
A:
Either engine will do fine....look for 72 mph. I'd go 8"
plate. If given the choice |
|
and
money wasn't a big issue, I'd always opt for the bigger boat...look
for 75 from |
|
20/225
combo. |
01
Triton TR20 PD |
Q:
Todd, I am thinking of buying a new Triton but I also am
a speed freak so I |
|
was
thinking of going with either a Mercury 200XS Opti/ProMax or
Mercury |
|
ProMax
280. Please tell me what should I do to get mid 80's out of this
boat and if |
|
your
like these motors or should I go with a different brand? |
|
A: The 225 EFI will push it to
80 if setup right....the 200X is nothing special and |
|
will
require a 22" prop to spin the r's where they need to be for
the little Opti to make |
|
power....I
know.....have a bud who bought one for his 290 Bee....much lighter
than |
|
the
Toon and dropped from 71 mph with his 200 OMC to 69 with the
200X..... |
|
Hence
the 280....I myself would like to play with one on a 20' since it's
never been |
|
done....I
think a 23" Tempest would be the prop....since 7500 r's is the
goal...... |
|
maybe
a 21" even. |
|
I
believe a 225 EFI and some trick components is the way to go fast
reliably....but |
|
if
you insist on one of the HiPo motors.....the 280 would be my choice
over the |
|
200SX. |
01
Triton 186 |
Q:
I would be grateful if you could send me your recommended setup for
this rig. |
150
Merc or Yamaha |
Thanks
for any info. |
|
P.S.
This will be my first new boat. I want to get started off on
the right foot. |
|
|
|
A:
You have to have a 6" plate....don't buy the boat without it.
If you go Yamaha |
|
you'll
need a 23" Yamaha ProSeries prop....set at 5.5" to 6"
over the transom. |
|
If
you go Merc, you'll need the 23" Tempest set at 4.5" to
5.25" over the transom. |
01
Triton TR19 |
Q:
I do not have a GPS...but I wanted to add this as a
comment. When I purchased |
01
200 Yamaha |
the
boat from the dealer, the engine height was 4 7/8" off the
transom with an 8" |
|
jackplate.
The boat was way too much to handle at that setting. It had an
extreme |
25"
Yamaha
|
amount
of stern lift and would come of the hole like a rocket and scream up
to 65 |
8"
jackplate |
mph....however...once
you hit 65 mph the boat began to chinewalk something |
6.75"
off transom |
horrible.
I waited until the motor got broke in a bit and began playing with
the |
77-79
mph @ |
jackplate
while watching the water pressure. As I broke the 6"
mark...the boat |
5600-5800
rpm |
started
calming down. I now have the engine at 6 3/4" off the
transom with 18-20 |
20#
psi |
lbs
of water pressure. The boat now runs straight as an arrow and
touches 77-79 |
|
mph
rather quickly (speedo) @ 5600-5800 rpm with a full tournament load
with a |
|
full
tank of oil and gas. |
|
A:
That's great....sounds like you're close to where you need to be.
Just for giggles |
|
borrow
a 27" ProSeries Yamaha and jack it another 1/4" and see
what happens. |
99
Triton TR20 |
Q:
My boat has a chine walking problem at wot and trimmed out.
That's with me |
99
200 Merc |
driving,
when I picked the boat up, the dealer took me for a ride and there
was no |
|
chine
walking at 76 mph. Please help, is this my driving? |
25"
Tempest
|
A:
Yep....you have some driving lessons in front of you. All the
Allisons, Bullets, |
6"
jackplate
|
Gamblers
and so on...along with all Tritons do this....find a TR21 driver and
have him |
76
mph @ 5800
|
work
with you for an hour or so....you have weeks of schooling ahead but
they will |
15#
psi
|
show
you the right moves and you can work up from there. |
|
There
are several chinewalk articles on this website that will help as
well as a couple |
|
of
chinewalk teachers there in the Lonestar state willing to help. |
|
**
Note: Chinewalking teachers are found on "Super
Tips" page under |
|
Chinewalking
Teachers.... |
00
Triton 205 DCF |
Q:
Please don't shoot me, I know this is not a bassboat but it is a
Triton. Now that |
00
225 Merc |
I
live in the North Country (MN), I have to fish for the
"other" fish. My question is |
|
with
my setup how can I reduce porpoising and get better mid-speed
handling? |
23"
HighFive
|
Motor
is set up one hole up on transom. I have also tried a 23"
Tempest Plus with |
No
jackplate
|
same
result, just faster top end. |
68
mph @ 5740 rpm
|
A:
You're running pretty well for a HighFive.... |
16#
psi
|
All
the SF21's we sold....(205 in ski trim), were shipped out with the
Mercury |
|
Vengence
prop. It has the holeshot of the HighFive with almost the
speed of the |
|
Tempest.
A jackplate would help you across the board......raising the engine
1 hole |
|
could
help....rearranging your gear on board to change the weight
distribution could |
|
help
the porpoising. Most hulls have a spot where they want to
porpoise although |
|
it's
usually during speed transition from WOT to low speed plane. |
01
Triton TR20 |
Q:
Todd, I was having problems with some chinewalking once the boat got
up on |
01
200 Merc EFI |
the
pad so I raised the engine up 1/4". This solved the
chinewalk but my psi has |
Trophy
prop
|
dropped
off to 10#. Is this too low for my Merc? |
6"
jackplate
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A:
I like to see 12-15 psi on the 2.5 liter blocks. It would live
at 10# but you're |
72
mph @ 5900
|
going
to have to watch the turns for dropoff. |
10-12#
psi
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99
Triton TR20 |
Q:
I have been constantly running 67 at WOT with full gear and gas.
I am |
99
200 Merc EFI |
considering
upgrading to a 225 EFI but am leery since I can't find any
information |
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on
what speed I can expect and or what prop I should start with.
If I upgrade to |
23"
Tempest
|
the
new motor they will give me a prop but I don't want to run the boat
hard until I |
6"
jackplate
|
get
it broke in properly. Do you have any information on the
TR20's w/ 225 Mercs? |
5"
off transom
|
Triton
has changed the horsepower rating on the TR20 (including prior
years) |
67
@ 6000 rpm
|
making
this upgrade a possibility. Thanks..... |
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A: 26" Trophy or 27"
Tempest on the TR20/225 EFI. You're not setup very well |
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right
now with your present configuration. Just switching to a
25" Tempest and |
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jacking
another 1/2" will get you into the 70's. The 23"
Tempest is not the right prop. |
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The
225/20 is a mid, upper 70's rig....76-77 maybe faster due to the
size of your |
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'99.
The new ratings don't cover your '99 hull so be careful. |
99
Triton TR 19 |
Q:
What is the best setup for this boat and motor combination in
regards to the |
99
175 Evinrude |
jackplate
height and prop. Should I be running a 3 blade versus the 4
blade |
Ficht |
Renegade? |
23"
Renegade
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A: I'd set it at 4.5" up
for starters and try a 24" Raker...depending on the load the |
6"
jackplate
|
23"
Renegade may be the best though..... |
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99
Triton TR 21 |
Q:
Hi, I'm having trouble getting rpm. I'm told I can swing a
27" but when I put |
01
225 Yamaha |
it
on, I'm only getting 5100 !! It is a Merc Mirage. |
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My
other prop is a ProSeries 26" and I only get 5400 @ 71/72 mph. |
26"
Pro Series
|
My
plate is a 4" two piece HiJacker and I don't really trust it.
But I'm getting smoked |
27"
Mirage
|
by
the Mercs out there. I'm told the 3.1 should be pushing me by
them guys at |
4"
off transom
|
77
mph!! PLEASE help. |
4"
jackplate
|
A: The setup is a 27"
ProSeries Yamaha at 6.5" over the transom...a 6" plate is |
71
mph @ 5400
|
acceptable
but a 10" is preferred....7.5" up with a 10" plate.
Look for 76 or so |
20#
psi
|
when
the setup is nailed down. Trade the Mirage to a ski boat
owner...it won't do |
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on
the TR21. |
01
Triton TR 186 |
Q:
Need some advice. I just bought my boat. It is about ten
months old. I was |
01
150 Merc XR6 |
wondering
what the advantages of putting a jackplate on would be. I have
taken it |
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out
twice, and am very satisfied with the ride. I am really not
interesting in gaining |
23"
Tempest
|
a
whole lot more speed. This is my first real hi-performance
boat, so I really don't |
No
jackplate
|
know
what to expect. My last boat was an Alumaweld (Xpress) Pro 52
with a |
60
mph @ 5200
|
Yamaha
155, so this is quite a bit different for me. Any advice would
be greatly |
12-15#
psi
|
appreciated. |
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A: The jack will help in all
aspects of performance...if you're happy now, leave it |
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alone....the
numbers you gave are respectable and the boat will perform
satisfactorily |
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the
way it is. |
00
Triton TR20 |
Q:
What speed should I be getting, also is this the right prop?
Am considering a |
00
200 Merc (Carb) |
Tempest.
Is the motor at the right height? Any other tips would be
great. |
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25"
Trophy
|
A:
The engine needs to come up to about 5.25". |
6"
jackplate
|
The
25" Tempest is the prop I rig on the 20's. |
4.75"
off transom
|
Your
speed is low for 5600 rpm.....and the psi is high for a 2.5
L.....jack it up! |
62.5
mph @ 5600
|
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19#
psi
|
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01
Triton TR21 |
Q:
This is the fourth TR21 I have owned but all except this one was
with a 225 EFI. |
01
250 Merc |
I
can't seem to find the correct setup for the 250. I was first
told to run a 27" |
|
Tempest
but I think if I'm not turning the 26" Trophy any better then I
won't be able |
26"
Trophy
|
to
run the 27" Tempest. I raised the jackplate some more and
I felt like I lost too |
6"
jackplate
|
much
bow lift. I called Triton and they told me that the '01 TR21's
do not lift as |
5.75"
off transom
|
high
as the '00. They also told me that they have had better luck
with the Tempest |
80
plus mph (speedo)
|
26"
on this boat. I now have a 26" Tempest coming. I am
also getting some high |
@
5900 rpm
|
revs
at take off when I have full livewells with the 26" Trophy.
I was told for this |
15#
psi
|
I
should plug up the vent holes. This boat has acted completely
different than my |
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others,
I have never had a problem with setup up before. I thought I
knew a little |
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about
setup until I got this rig. Thanks for any help....... |
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A: I haven't gotten to run the
26" Tempest since it came out last year....I like the |
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idea
of it though.... |
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You
have a 6300 redline on the XB....so you could drop back to a
25" and still not |
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suffer
low speed due to the higher revs and 1.75 gearcase. |
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In
theory the 26" Tempest should give you about 100 more rpms over
the 26" |
|
Trophy....real
world isn't always the same as what the calculator says. |
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The
PVS plugs replaced with solid inserts will cut down on holeshot
venting. |
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I
think you can come up some....the scoops on the XB will let you
raise that engine |
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to
7".....watch the pressure in the turns. I think you
should bump it up and give the |
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26"
Trophy a chance to run a little higher....would also like to hear
what the |
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26"
Tempest does....... |
99
Triton TR18DC |
Q:
Hi Todd, I was wondering if you have done any TR18DC boats and what
you |
00
150 Yamaha |
would
recommend. It works well with the stock 13 3/8 x 25" but
I am going to put |
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a
ProSeries prop on. Do I go with the 25" ProSeries as
well? It has a CMC |
25"
Yamaha
|
manual
plate on it with 5 1/2" setback. Any tips or
constructive criticism would |
5
1/2" jackplate
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greatly
be appreciated. |
3
3/8" off transom
|
A:
I'd like to see you with a little more rpm. The ProSeries will
probably cost you a |
67.2
mph @ 5300
|
little
rpm with the larger diameter. I'd like to see you try a
23" and a 25" and decide |
15#
psi
|
from
there. |
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01
Triton TR20 PD |
Q:
I just took delivery of this boat and have not yet launched it.
I would like to |
01
225 Merc EFI |
know
how far off the transom the motor should be set. Most of my
fishing will be |
|
done
on Lake Ontario and the St.Lawrence River which are often very
rough. |
25"
Tempest
|
|
6"
jackplate
|
A:
As little as 5.5" or as high as 6.5" depending on load. |
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01
Triton TR21 |
Q:
Todd....Have you tested an '01 Triton/Yamaha of this
nature? Should I keep |
01
225 Yamaha |
coming
up 1/4" at a time until I lose water pressure? Boat
handles great. I just |
|
want
it performing at its max potential. Any help would be greatly
appreciated. |
25"
Tempest Plus
|
|
5.75"
off transom
|
A:
The 21/225 Yamaha combo's run at 6.5" up and a 27"
ProSeries Yamaha prop. |
77
mph @ 5600
|
20#
psi is a lot for a Yamaha....17-18 is what most run....bring it up! |
20#
psi
|
|
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01
Triton TR19 |
Q:
How do you set up the transom height? Also, could you give me
an idea what |
00
200 Merc EFI |
speed
I should be able to run. I am still in the break-in period;
any suggestions |
|
(besides
the owners manual), on giving it a good break-in? What do you
think of |
24"
Trophy
|
the
prop pitch? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. |
6"
jackplate
|
A: You have the wrong prop. A
25" Trophy is what's needed....I have 19's with |
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175's
running 25" to 5600 rpm. Set the engine @ 5.5" up
from the transom... |
|
measure
from the transom plate on the boat to the flat part of the engine
bracket |
|
where
the engine would rest on the transom if there were no jackplate. |
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You
should be able to run 72-73 light. |
00
Triton TR186 |
Q:
I want to know if you think I am maxed out on my speed? I have
little chine |
00
150 Yamaha |
walk
at my top speed. These readings are with me, my tackle and 1/2
tank of gas. |
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A: 72 mph on Triton's speedo is
good for about 66-67....so yes....I'd say you're |
25"
Turbo Lightning
|
running
very well. I've run several Lightnings and have never found
them to be |
6"
jackplate
|
better
than Tempests, Rakers or ProSeries Yamahas.....you might have
stumbled on |
2
1/2" off transom
|
a
prop the 186 likes. |
|
|
01
Triton TR19 |
Q:
This is our first Triton, or bassboat for that matter. This is
how we have received |
01
200 Merc EFI |
it
from the dealer. I would appreciate any input you could give
me on the set-up and |
|
or
prop selection. At this stage we are more interested in the
hole shot - overall |
24"
Trophy
|
stability
in rough water. (Sacrificing a couple of mph's is not a big deal).
We are |
6"
jackplate
|
currently
half way through the break in period and we already love the boat. |
5
1/4" off transom
|
Thank
you in advance for any help or suggestions you can give us. |
|
A: You need a 25" Trophy.
The 24" doesn't carry the load or have the speed for |
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the
rpms turned. You'll probably have to come up a little also.
Get used to driving |
|
it
before making any changes. Congrads!! |
02
Triton TR21 |
Q:
How much setback for a fully loaded boat. Prop selection is in
question also. |
02
225 Merc Opti |
Have
had great luck with the 25" and 27" Yamaha and have an
extra 27". |
|
A: 10" is what I'd run.
The ONLY prop I'd run on the 21'/Opti is a 25" Trophy. |
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If
you're having luck with the 3 blades don't change on my account. |
01
Triton SF21 |
Q:
I take delivery of this boat next week and would like some advice on
a good |
01
200 Yamaha VMax |
setup
starting point. I have ordered the boat with a 21"
HighFive for a ski prop and |
HPDI |
a
Yamaha 23" ProSeries for a speed prop, but these are just best
guesses on props |
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to
start with. Any and all advice is appreciated. |
6"
jackplate
|
A: I'd say you're a pretty good
guesser. I'd opt for the 21" Vengeance by Merc |
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over
the HighFive. It will be faster and just as good at
holeshot......as a matter of |
|
fact
you may not put the Yamaha prop on after running the Vengeance!
That's what |
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we
rigged all 21SF's with no matter what power we sold them with. |
97
Triton TR21 |
Q:
The speed is with two people, livewells half full with 3/8's of
a tank of gas. |
97
225 Johnson |
With
a 26" Raker I can only go 65 mph after trying several engine
heights. |
|
Would
a 27" Renegade help the top end? How about a nosecone to
raise the |
25"
Renegade
|
engine
height? |
6"
jackplate
|
A: No nosecone....period!
You need to put the 27" on it. You'll only lose a tad |
6.5"
off the transom
|
of
rpm but you'll gain 1-2 mph overall. The 26" isn't a prop
I'd run on the 21', even |
73.4
mph @ 6100
|
though
the 2000 225 Fichts liked them pretty well. |
16#
psi
|
The
27" will get you to 75....leave the weed ring off for a trip
and see if it will plane |
|
without
venting....you're pretty high. |
00
Triton TR21 DC |
Q:
Not sure of engine height, I think about 5" above the transom.
I feel I should be |
00
225 Merc EFI |
able
to run in mid-70's easy. Will a 225 Merc turn a 27"
Tempest on a Toon. |
|
Some
say yes, some say it won't get out of the hole. |
25"
Trophy
|
A: The 21' will not spin the
27" Tempest. The 26" Trophy is THE prop for that |
8"
jackplate
|
boat...but
you need to be in the 6" over the transom range with the
engine.... |
68.6
mph @ 5700
|
68.5
is slow for 5700 rpms...and 18# psi is a lot for the 225....you need
to come up. |
18#
psi
|
The
21/225 combo is good for 72-75 depending on load and driver. |
|
5800
rpm with the 25" is good for 74 when hooked up correctly. |
98
TR 21 PD |
Q:
Engine overheat audible alarm sounds with boat running at WOT,
jackplate set |
98
225 Merc EFI |
at
7, water pressure is not below 10 psi. My mechanic says it's the
poppet valve. |
|
What
do you think? This won't let me get above 72 mph. Thanks... |
25"
Trophy |
A: The '98 model year is when the so called "low
psi, hi volume" H2o water pump |
72
mph @ 5600
|
was
introduced. In all actuality what happened was that the pre
'98 models were |
11#
psi
|
cooking
the lower unit with hot exhaust gases. The cure was to introduce a
lighter |
|
poppet
vale to dump more water down the midsection to cool the bearing
carrier in |
|
the
lower unit. 7 on the Detwiler holds no relevance since the engine
could be |
|
be
mounted in any one of 5 holes. You're going to have to take a
measurement with |
|
your
Detwiler to figure out where you're running at. Pre Y2K motos
max at 5.75" up. |
|
Post
Y2K's can run at 6.5"+. The simple cure is to add the
torquemaster scoops on |
|
your
lower unit. This will let you run as high as you want and
force more water to the |
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powerhead. |
00
TR21 PDC |
Q:
Would like to know if
10" jackplate, RapidJack would help. Prop was tuned by |
00
225 Yamaha |
Rich
Boger. Still in process of setting up boat since prop was tuned.
Jackplate has |
27" Yamaha |
been
maxed in height before, now running about 1.5" from max lift;
still trying to figure |
|
out
best position. Would like to continue with jackplate in
uppermost range due to |
76
mph @ 5900
|
shallow
water lakes. Any input would be appreciated, including
recommendations |
20#
psi
|
of
second props. |
5"
jackplate
|
A: 5"
is very low for the big block Yamaha...most run in the 6.5"
range. A 10" |
|
will
help mid to upper rpm ranges. There might be a 1-2 mph
difference in the max |
|
setup
between the 6" and 10". |
|
A
25" Yamaha can make a very good extra prop....in the heat of
summer with a full |
|
load
it will give some more holeshot, rpms and will be only slightly
slower than the 27" |
01
TX 186 |
Q:
Trying to get my 186 set up
Todd. Should I stick with a 6" plate or a 10" and |
01
150 Merc |
would
I have to change cables on either? What would be your prop
pick on either |
|
setup? |
|
A: You can use the 6" and not have to change cables.
I wouldn't recommend the |
|
10"
for the 186. My prop choice would be the 23" Tempest or
the 24" Trophy. |
01
TR21 |
Q:
I have not picked it up yet,
but dealer is telling me to go with a 24" Trophy. |
01
225 Merc |
Looking
at most of the other setups I see guys going with a 25" -
26" Trophy or |
|
Tempest.
What would you recommend? I run normal gear, weigh 175# and run 4 |
|
batteries
(36V TM). I'm looking for a happy medium in the holeshot/top end
speeds. |
|
A:
A 24" Trophy would be a serious mistake. The
reduced blade area compared to |
|
the
25" Trophy causes the boat to run lots of rpms with little lift
and speed. Since it |
|
sounds
as if you're running a good size load, I'd suggest the 25"
Trophy; it's always |
|
been
the good ol' standby prop for the 21's. |
01
TR19 PDC |
Q:
I am picking the boat
up this week; any help you can give on this combo would |
01
200 Yamaha |
be
appreciate. This is my first bassboat. Boat does not
have a jackplate and was |
|
setup
by dealer. |
|
A:
I'm going to be a little blunt here..if you give half a
damn about performance, have |
|
your
dealer install a 6" plate before you go get it....or you'll be
one of a thousand who |
|
write
me dissatisfied with the performance they get from their Toon. |
|
Set
to fly with a 10" plate it would turn a 27" PS Yamaha, but
set to fish it will use |
|
the
25" Yamaha PS. With no plate, we're done discussing
setup...it'll be where the |
|
dealer
sets the engine and you'll be stuck where you are. |
|
I
sold/rigged/raced for the biggest Triton dealer in the U.S...don't
let the dealer tell |
|
you
not to plate it! |
98
TR17 |
Q:
Just need advice on overall
performance improvement, e.g. jackplate, nosecone, |
97
115 Merc |
(I
do a lot of shallow water fishing), anything you can suggest to
improve my boat/ |
|
motor. |
22" prop
|
A:
I'd jack it....but the
nosecone will hurt your performance, not help. For higher |
(48-16992A45)
|
settings
use the torquemaster-style water inlet "scoops" on the
lower unit. A sport- |
55
mph
|
master
or Bob's cone will suck up mud very easily and overheat. The
cone is for |
|
80+
mph boats that need to run very high engine settings with over hub
props. |
|
I
assume your prop is a Laser II, not a bad prop on the 17'/115
combo...but there |
|
are
better choices...try a Trophy (probably a 21") for more lift
and more blade |
|
surface.
Don't spin the 115 past 5300 rpm. The little inline will "hand
grenade" past |
|
this. |
00
TR186 |
Q:
Raised jackplate almost an inch from dealers setup. This
helped chinewalk |
00
150 Merc XR6 |
and
raised rpm by 100. Does this setup seem ok? What should my
water pressure |
|
be?
How close are speedometers usually? |
24"
Trophy
|
A: The Triton speedos get worse
the faster you go...yours is probably off 4-5 mph. |
6"
jackplate
|
If
you were in a TR21 doing 80 on the speedo you'd be off by 6-7 mph. |
69
mph @ 5350 rpm
|
PSI
will be about 12-15 on the XR4, if you're experiencing any adverse
effects now |
|
then
keep raising, you're running pretty well now. |
|
I
wish the other 186 owners could read your results...the dealers have
a thing about |
|
not
installing a plate on the 186's....guess you proved them wrong and
me right. |
|
I
have always sold them with the jack; I've never seen it hurt one
yet. |
00
TR22 |
Q:
Would like to push rpm up 300-400, also gain additional lift as
I do not feel the |
00
225 Yamaha |
27"
prop is performing as it should....thoughts/comments? |
|
A: The 27" is too much prop
for the 22/225 Yamaha combo. The 22 does like a |
27"
Yamaha Pro
|
3
blade though. I'd drop it to a 25" Yamaha, that should get you
to 5600 and more |
6"
jackplate
|
into
your engine's powerband. At 5200 you're only making 200 hp. If
this still |
68.6
mph @ 5200
|
doesn't
get your bow up and rpms up you can go to a 25" Trophy. I don't
like the |
|
24"
Trophys and don't feel like they are an option on your heavy hull. |
00
TR20 |
Q:
Just bought this boat left over, they rigged it for me, I've not
yet had it on the |
00
200 Merc |
water.
They put a 4 blade prop on; should I run this prop or go to a 3
blade. I want |
|
the
best of two worlds, holeshot and top end. |
|
A:
The 25" Tempest has been by far the best top end
prop. The 25" Trophy will do |
|
a
little better in the middle, but not much better on holeshot. I'd
run the 3 blade if it |
|
were
mine. |
99
TR21 |
Q:
I know this is slow for this
boat. I am trying to get the speed up to around 70. |
99
225 Johnson |
I
feel that I also do not get bow lift like I should at WOT. I have to
trim my motor |
25"
Renegade
|
out
all the way just to get my rpms to 58-5900. What can I do to
improve things? |
5
1/2" jackplate
|
A: From the speed, H20 psi and
rpms, I'd guess your engine is too high...but if |
63
mph @ 5900
|
you're
truly 5.5" up.....you're a tad low. I ran my 21/225 HO's
at 6.25" with a |
20-25# psi
|
27" Renegade at
6100 rpm. |