SetupsLibrary7

98 Javelin 379	Q: Boat maintains a nose down attitude, and will not "fly". Have tried different
95 260 Merc	jackplates, engine heights and numerous props. Everyone suggest that the bottom
	might have a "hook". Do you have any experience with this type of problem on a
27" SRX	Javelin 379? Any ideas on what I should do? I am working with Rich Boger for
12" jackplate	props and Jay Smith for the engine (he built the 260 for me, it's brand new). Thanks.
1.25" above pad	A: I assume you have a '95 2.5 EFI....one problem could be with the CLE
85 mph @ 7200	lower unit that comes with that engine....it's not very desirable....especially not on
15# psi	the Jav. The 12" plate is a little excessive also...I personally wouldn't run over a 10"
	on the OMC hull.
	I think you're tying to run Bullet and Allison heights that are hurting you also...
	The SRX is a decent load carrying prop to a point....I think looking at the 26 Trophy
	is where you could start...and lower the setup some to get bowlift...a different
	nosecone will help if you now have a CLE....Bob's or better yet a J&J unit.
	I'm currently working on a 295 Stratos with a hot 225 Merc 3 liter....J&J cone
	and hitting the limiter at 6150 with every prop from a 29 DR4 Spinelli to a
	27 Tempest...and running almost 84 mph with the 29 DR4...AT 3" UNDER PAD!
	So lower to at least 1.5" under pad...try the 26 Trophy at 7500 and I bet you'll
	be a lot happier.
02 Javelin 190 SC	Q: I'm getting ready to buy this boat and was wondering with the proper set-up
02 150 Yamaha EFI	how fast should it be able to go? Javelins seem to be very fast, is this true?
	A: Yep....the Javelins run pretty strong...my guess is that you'll see an honest
25" Yamaha	62-64 mph....GPS....the speed will show about 70.
	Do yourself a favor and get the plate....or don't be surprised to just see 60.

99 Javelin	Q: Have not had the plate installed yet, it was given to my Dad for Christmas and
Renegade R18	we were curious to see if you thought it would work on our Javelin and what kind
99 150 Johnson	of performance you thought it might have. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
	A: 10" is a lot of plate....and if your 18 has cable steering instead of hydraulic
20"? Raker	you probably won't have enough slack in the cables to make it work.
10" jackplate	If you do have slack and do mount the 10" plate, performance gains can be from
	1-5 mph depending on how efficient the setup is now...it will help topend definitely
	but the extra setback may cause low speed and mid range performance drop off
	compared to the results of a 6" plate.
91 Javelin 389	Q: What usually works out best on shaft height on these boats? Never worked on
92 150 FastStrike	one and trying to help my son out...I know one thing; it's totally different than my
	XTB Allison w/Bridgeport EFI...any help would be very welcome. What's the best
26" Trophy A45	way to tame chinewalk on this animal, has good tight double steering and torque tab.
10" jackplate	Thinking engine height but need advice as to where to start...know I need to get
4" below pad	engine up to get the rpms up, will have to re-drill plate; reason wanting good mid
69 mph @ 5300	starting point. Thanks........
24# psi	A: Bringing the engine up to get the 26 to spin more r's is only goign to make the
	chinewalk worse....Javelin's require the engine to be mounted fairly low on the
	transom....but 3" under pad to shaft is where it should run....the 26 Trophy is going
	to be too much prop for the 150....it needs to spin upwards of 5800 rpm and the
	normal prop for this setup is a 24 Raker...a 4 blade will give more transom lift and
	in turn will make the chinewalk more exaggerated.
	If you get the 150 to spin a 26 it will probably need a 25 Raker...which will spin
	too more r's over the Trophy due to less drag of the added blades...the 389/150
	is capable of about 65 gps......
00 Javelin	Q: I'm looking to put on a 10" jackplate from Bob's Machine Shop; was wondering
Renegade 19 DC	if this would hurt the handling of the boat (I don't know if it would make a difference
00 175 Johnson	with a SeaStar hydraulic steering system or not), of if it would cause me to run
	nose high. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
25" Renegade	A: 10" is a tad much....go with a 6 or 8 max. The steering will have enough hose
	not to be affected. The 10" won't cause you to run nose high....it will cause a loss
	of performance at slower speeds...top end will be ok.....but not enough to warrant
	a performance loss at cruise speeds. The 25" will be the prop to have.
02 Javelin 200	Q: I'm on a dealer pro staff and this boat and engine is currently on order and has
400 hull	not arrive yet (no engines at the factory yet). The "OMC" setups I'm familiar with
02 200 Yamaha	but I have zero seat time and experience with the big block Yammies.
VMax	The handling characteristics I would like the boat to have are good holeshot with
	tournament load, optimal midrange and decent topend speed, basically an all-around
	set up for the average boat driver/angler. What would you suggest as a starting
	point for engine height and prop selection on this rig? Thanks for your advice.
	A: My experience with the 400 series and Renegade 20 Javelins is that they run
	the engine VERY low on the transom...the shaft isn't necessarily lower than the
	other boats....it just appears that way to the eye....so....the engine will have to be
	rigged to the plate for max depth.
	The 25 Yamaha ProSeries is an excellent choice...lightning holeshot and decent
	acceleration....not the props fault on the acceleration this, I don't like Yamaha
	mid range at all. The 27" will have the same holeshot and mid range but will be
	1-2 mph faster on top....The Jav hull likes the 3 blade....so I'd say got with the
	25 ProSeries but try the 27 when you get it set where you want it....set the engine
	at 3.75" under pad for starters....I would say 3.25" is where you'll run but I don't
	know about the new Alan Stinson hulls.
00 Javelin	Q: Setup info is with two people and a full tournament load. Problem is when I'm
Renegade 20SC	alone I turn around 6300 rpm and boat has a tendency to chinewalk real bad.
00 225 Evinrude	Do you think a 25 Renegade 4 blade will help? I know it should reduce rpms but
Ficht	what about chinewalk? I think if I raise my plate it will help with the walk when I'm
	alone but I'm afraid I'll hit the rev limiter and don't want to do anything to void my
24" Raker	warranty. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. How much speed would
7" SlideRite	I lose if I ran the 4 blade all the time?
3.5" off transom	A: You may not lose any....but I'd try the 26 Raker first. I rig the 225 HO's with
76 mph @ 6100	the 27" Renegade....and they're only good for 75 mph....so I'd hate to see you
27# psi	change much.
	As far as warranty it could be voided now....anything over 6K is a no no on a
	tattle tale engine.....keep it to 6K.....anything over and you're not making power....
	just spinning r's.
98 Javelin 400 TE	Q: What do I need to do? This boat was a rocket. I bought it with a modified
00 225 Johnson	225 Johnson, Bob's lower water pickup on it. Blew it up, the guy screwed up the
	block. I'd like a more reliable motor but the stock 225 is a dog, it blows out the
27" Renegade	27" coming out. I have to take if really ease. The top end is now gone!
10" jackplate	Maybe I am too far back, is there such a thing. I can learn a lot, this is my first 225
68-72 mph @	and big boat. I need to setup it up; it acts way different than my old 19 footers and
5800-6200 rpm	150's.
45# psi	A: You'd be better off with the Bob's nosecone....that hurts lift on a pre-80 mph
	rig......also the Javelins run with the engine VERY low on the transom....you will
	need to lower excessively to cut the slip you have now....6000 with a 27" should
	be all over 75 mph.....don't rig for holeshot if top end is what you want....lowering
	the engine in the water may hurt holeshot but it will cut the slippage drastically.
95 Javelin 400 TE	Q: I asked about proper setup once before, but now I have another question.....
95 175 Evinrude	would a Renegade 25" be too much pitch for my 175? You recommended a
	Renegade 23", but I have found several 24's and 25's for pretty reasonable prices.
21" Raker	Will the 24" or 25" be too much for the motor to turn? Thanks again for the
6" jackplate	previous help!
62 mph @ 5800	A: 25" Renegade will be far too large....there is no 24" Renegade....so it's
	21, 23, 25 or 27.
95 Javelin 400TE	Q: I'm not sure about the jackplate size.....what determines size? Is it the distance
95 175 Evinrude	from the transom to the motor mounts or is it the travel up and down?
Intruder	Also, how do I measure height off the transom? I just purchased this boat and
	would like some additional info about correct setup....it seems to be turning a lot of
? Raker prop	rpms with less speed than most on the Javelin setup listing.
62 mph @ 5700	Can you help? Any suggestions you can give me will be greatly appreciated!
25-30# psi	A: The 400TE is a great boat. You're a tad underpowered with the 175....but
	you probably have a better holeshot than a 400 with a 225.....the 175 is a hoss on
	the low end.
	The plate is measured by the overall distance from the transom plate to the engine
	plate....most are 6, 8 and 10".
	I really need to know what prop you're turning......it's probably a 24" Raker.....the
	400 Jav likes a 4 blade Renegade better than a Raker....I'd rig a 23" Renegade were
	it mine....not that your current prop won't work.
	The Jav runs the engine very low on the transom....it's generally better to measure
	from pad down to shaft....you'll be looking for about 3" under.
	A well rigged and setup 400/175 should run 65-68 mph....they are fairly quick
	boats for the size.
97 Javelin 409 TE	Q: Broke blade off Raker, 2nd one. Want to go to another prop. Like Renegade
98 200 Johnson	but don't like $500. Found Cabelas HP prop for $349. What size pitch, 23/24/25?
Venom	Have you had any experience with them? Thanks in advance........
	A: My advice is bite the bullet and get the Renegade......other than Mazco and
24" Raker	Spinelli I have zero faith in any other aftermarket prop. The big Jav's love the
5" jackplate	Renegade.....do some searching on BBC and BFHP to find a like new used prop
2 1/2" below pad	for $300.
72 mph @ 5900
20# psi

00 Javelin Renegade	Q: Looking to get the correct engine height for my setup. If I could get the correct
00 225 Johnson HO	height off transom measurement, I would appreciate it.

25" Renegade	A: Have no exact measurement.....but I'll tell you this......lower it till the steering
6" jackplate	cylinder interferes with the transom of the boat when trimmed up and you'll still be
4" off transom	a tad high. THIS BOAT RUNS LOW!! I've redrilled plates to lower engines
73 mph @ 6000	further on the R20.
35# psi

95 Javelin 367	Q: I know I'm underpropped. Want to go stainless and up pitch to bring my rpms
95 115 Johnson	back into the power band (5000-5500). Current stock aluminum originally gave
FastStrike	around 53 mph speedo @ 5900 but has since taken a few licks. I've tried a
	4 blade SS 13.25 x 20" which gave me 50 mph @ 5600 rpms WOT and trimmed
19" Alum. 14"	out, but holeshot sucked and boat was difficult to handle. Is there a 3 blade wheel
1" off transom	that will give me decent overall performance? Thanks........
49 mph @ 6100	A: The 115 will spin the r's......so try to keep it in the 5600 range......I think a
	20" Raker will give you everything you're looking for.....don't buy one that has been
	damaged...Rakers don't repair very well.
93 Javelin 379DC	Q: I would like to know if I can get any more top end. I have a great holeshot and
150 Johnson	very little chinewalking. Any suggestions e.g., props, more setback would be very
FastStrike	much appreciated. Thanks in advance........
	A: 2 more inches of setback with spacers would liven things up....a 26" Raker would
25" Renegade	speed you up now also without sacrificing much rpm also....the 379 is a runner and
6" jackplate	the Renegade is probably holding you back a little....other than that....you're lookin'
6.25" off transom	pretty good.
68 mph @ 5600
30# psi
99 Javelin	Q: Do you think a 10" plate would help performance over the 5 1/2 ?
Renegade 19	Also, I'm having Boger build me a 24" Raker as I write this. What do you think
99 175 Johnson	top speed should be with Bogerized prop. I've heard a lot of good things about his
	work. Thanks......
24" Raker	A: A 10" plate could help top speed...but the place would sacrifice low and mid
5 1/2" jackplate	range performance. I'd recommend 2" spacers over another plate.
4 1/2" off transom	As far as the Boger prop job....I just don't know what to tell you to expect.
72 mph @ 5500	The last TR21 I did for a customer was faster with my factory 26" Raker than his
22# psi	Boger 26" Raker...but the setup was changed drastically over what it came with....
	he came to me at 69 mph and left at 73 mph.
01 Javelin Venom 17	Q: The holeshot and time to top speed is excellent on this particular boat.
01 90 Johnson	The problem is once it reaches top speed, handling becomes somewhat less than
	desirable. If the water is cut up from existing boat traffic, the boat tends to chine
19" aluminum	walk severely. Cornering also becomes a problem. While there is no noticeable
3.25" off transom	increase in engine rpm, the prop begins to slip. Any suggestions would be greatly
52 mph @ 5400	appreciated.
	A: With no plate your options are limited....I think chunking the aluminum prop in
	favor of a Viper or Raker will make all the difference in the world on slippage....
	but.....when the slippage disappears the handling will probably worsen due to the
	fact that speed should be increased......as well as lift.
	When it gets severely hard to handle, tuck the engine a tad....at least till you get
	used to driving it.
01 Javelin	Q: Boat will reach 6000 rpm when trimmed high. Should I go to a 24" Raker.
Renegade 19	Will I see any more speed with a 24" Raker as compared to the 23" Renegade?
01 175 Evinrude	Also, will the 24" Raker bring down the rpms for longevity of the motor?
Ficht
	A: The Raker would probably be a tad faster....but will spin about the same as
23" Renegade	the 23" Renegade since it has less resistance with 1 less blade.....I'd try it.
No jackplate	I'd also throw a 25" Renegade at it just for giggles....you might be surprised....in
72 mph @ 5900	theory it should bring you down to 5500 rpm....but if it only brings you down to
20# psi	5600 I'd stay with it....it'll be 1-2 mph faster also.

95 Javelin 379T	Q: Boat wants to chine walk above 65 mph. Will a 6" jackplate help with this
95 150 Evinrude	problem? What is the max rpm I should turn without overdoing it?
	A: The 379 is a little hot rod....but it doesn't like the transom lift the 4 blade gives....
4 blade prop	hence the chine. The plate will help dial the exact setting in, but the Jav will chine if
65 mph @ 5100	run high. I'd run a 24" Raker on it....redline is 5500....but I've seen them spun and
18# psi	have run them myself up to 6K with no adverse effects....stay around 5500 for
	longevity and get the plate....6".